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ISO TC/108/SC2/WG7 N191
Written on 8-May-2002
Minutes of ISO TC108/SC2/WG7 Minden Meeting, 2002-05-08
On 8th May 2002, the Minden meeting of ISO 108/SC2/WG7 was held in 09:00-17:00 at Bently Nevada Corporation, Minden. Nevada, USA
(1) The opening and greeting of members was made. We have the following attendees:
Japan: |
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Matsushita, Prof. Kanki |
USA |
5 |
Prof. Eric Maslen, Prof. Hawkins |
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Mr. Kevin Bornstein (MR. Mike Swann, Waukkesha) |
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Mr. Jigger Jumonville (Mafi-Trench) |
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Mr. Chet Farabaough (Mr. M. Lacour, S2M) |
Canada |
2 |
Mr. Michal Urednicek, Tood Reitsma (Mr. Mark Roberts, Revolve) |
Germany |
1 |
Mr. Dieter Hansen |
Totally |
10 |
Persons from 3 countries |
(2) The prepared agenda of N187 was introduced and adapted.
(3) The distributed documents were introduced.
(4) We reviewed the status of our standard ISO 14839 series being developed by WG7 and ISO rules
FDIS 14839-1 Vocabulary・・・ |
N170 |
in printing |
CD 14839-2 Evaluation of vibration・・・ |
N175 |
waiting the result of voting by national bodies |
WD 14839-3 Evaluation of stability margin・・・ |
N116 |
version 2000-06 redesign at this meeting |
WD 14839-4 AMB technical guidelines・・・ |
N117 |
version 2000-06 |
(5) We reviewed previous documents and minutes with respect to stability margin
N98 Evaluation of stability margin...
Spillover is different from Q factor of critical speed, ISO 10814
N95 Swiss comments on stability margin
Sensitivity function is strongly recommended for the part 3.
N116 WD 14839-2 Evaluation of stability margin
N118 Standard survey prepared by Eric
Sensitivity is applicable for general cases, ie. mimo system
(6) We discussed the revision of WD 14839-3
Introduction of API standards (Eric) and Q-values criteria ISO 10814 (Mr. Kanki)
Evaluated modes by regulation is different between API and ISO TC108/2-7;
API: first mode stability, related to cross coupling
ISO; high frequency mode, related spillover instability
(7) Approach/design for documentation on stability margin is discussed:
Minutes of ISO TC108/SC2/WG7 Minden Meeting, 2002-05-08
On the 8th May 2002, the Minden meeting of ISO 108/CS2/WG7 was held from 8:00 until 17:00 at the offices of Bentley Nevada Corporation, Nevada, USA.
(7.1) There was a lengthy discussion of the API stability paragraphs and the fact that similar standards are already provided in ISO 10814. Thus, it was agreed that our additions should focus on stability issues introduced by modes at frequencies significantly higher than the nominal operating speed range.
(7.2) Once this discussion was concluded, we discussed the issue of whether the stability standard should dictate experimental evaluation or computational evaluation. It was agreed that the primary function of the standard should be to assure potential users that there is a clear test that can provide them a reasonable guarantee that an accepted machine will not be overly sensitive to variations in operating conditions. It was further agreed that computational assessment can't provide this kind of assurance and that an experimental standard is more appropriate.
(7.3) Having accepted the need for an experimental standard, the committee then addressed what measure should be used. There was a lengthy discussion of the relative merits of four different tests:
(a) Bode plot assessment of gain and phase margin of each individual axis
(b) simple adjustment of the total gain of each axis to find the stability limit to produce a direct gain limit measure
(c) assessment of gain margin through relative Q values of open- and closed-loop higher modes
(d) minimum distance on the Nyquist plot of each individual controller axis or, equivalently, peak of the sensitivity function of each individual controller axis
At the end of this discussion, it was agreed that test (d) is the most reliable and is acceptably easy to measure. Therefore, the standard will focus on test (d): either Nyquist minimum distance or peak of the sensitivity function.
(7.4) We then discussed the impact of the new API stability paragraphs (which specifically dictate the use of "synchronously reduced tilt pad bearing coefficients") on magnetic bearing system stability prediction. It was agreed that the ISO stability document should address this point in the simplest possible manner. Consequently, a paragraph (or several paragraphs) will be drafted for inclusion in this standard which stipulates use of the full controller transfer functions in stability prediction, rather than some corollary synchronously reduced equivalent stiffness and damping.
(7.5) A sequence of revision of the stability standard was discussed. Prof. Matsushita will first revise the existing draft to focus only on Nyquist/Sensitivity measurement He will then ship the document to Prof. Maslen, who will add his comments and insert the discussion of computational assessment of stability. Prof. Maslen will then return the annotated document to Prof. Matsushita for draft revision. It is anticipated that this work will be completed by the middle of June. Prof. Matsushita will then distribute the heavily revised stability document to the committee members and other interested parties.
(8) We then had a brief discussion of part 4: Technical Guidelines. Prof. Matsushita informed us that he has received a lengthy and very useful discussion of auxiliary bearing drop testing from Prof. Kirk. He also informed the committee that the Japanese team is in the process of drafting language for an actuator sizing standard. These elements will form a substantial portion of part 4.
(9) No other items is discussed.
(10) Information of Upcoming Meeting Schedules
(10.1) Mito/Tokyo meeting, Japan, during 28-29, August 2002
on 28.08.2002, a Factory tour
on 29.08.2002, ISO 108/2/WG7 meeting
Continued to the 8th International Symposium on Magnetic Bearing held at Mito, Japan, August 26-28, 2002
(10.2) Poland or London, in connecting program with ISCORMA 4-8, Aug, 2003
(11) Closure of Meeting
The convenor expressed his thanks to all of the attendees and Dr. Don Bently of BNC, for his cooperation of the ISO TC 108/SC2 conference..
ISO/TC 108/SC 2/WG 8
Prediction of Groundborne Vibration arising from Rail Systems in Tunnels (1HZ - 500Hz) 8th May 2002
Brief Report to ISO/TC108/SC2
by Ather Sharif
on Progress of
Working Group 8
"Prediction of Groundborne Vibration arising from Rail Systems in Tunnels [1 - 500Hz]
1. The Working Group had agreed on future parts that would be developed:
Current Task |
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Part 1: Guidelines on prediction models (doc ISO/CD 14837-1) |
Future Task |
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Part 2: Guidelines on measurements for development, calibration and validation of models |
Future Task |
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Part 3: Guidance acceptable magnitudes of groundborne vibration and resulting noise |
Future Task |
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Part 4: Guidance control of groundborne vibration and resulting noise by maintenance of the rail system |
Future Task |
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Part 5: Prediction models (parametric, empirical and semi-empirical) |
The WG would prepare scopes and seek approval from ISO/TC108/SC2 for the future Parts, and will concentrate on developing those in order of increasing priority from parts 2 to 5. No resolutions were taken in this respect until the WG had itself developed and approved the scopes.
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The comments that arose on Part 1 : ISO/CD/14837 - 1 were considered and many were addressed, leading to a revised document which would be circulated to all the working group 8 members, so that they may approve its issue as a DIS. Resolution I was made. |
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A new work item proposal would be submitted to ISO/TC108/SC2 on the topic of "Rail Track Geometry". It is intended that this new work item would make some use of the 'static' document: ISO/DIS 9629 "Rail track Geometry-Reporting of measured Data". Resolution 2 was made. |
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The next meeting venue would be sought in the Nordic region, to take place during March 2003. |
Resolution 1:
An edited version of ISO/CD/14837 -1 (doc ISO/TC108/SC2/WG8 N81) that addressed comments during WG8 meeting on 7/8th May 2002 would be circulated to all members of WG8, with a view to approving its issue as a DIS, during August 2002.
Resolution 2:
A new work item proposal would be prepared to address "Rail track geometry", that would make some use of ISO/DIS 9629, during August 2002.
Convenor Dr. Ather K sharif
Civil Engineering Dynamics Ltd
83-87 Wallace crescent, Carshalton, Surrey, SM5 3SU (UK)
Email : ced.co@virgin.net Tel: # 44 208 647 1908 Fax: # 44 208 395 1556
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